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Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:18:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I'm just trying to raise awareness that transversal velocity is not what people treat it as. I'd say I succeeded there. 
Must admit, this used to annoy me when people kept banging on about transversal velocity in TS all the time and telling everyone how they should use it. And when I tried to explain to them to use angular they didn't seem to understand or were blinkered into believing transversal is the only way. Very strange, and made me wonder if they actually read the transversal reading they have on their overview or just like to bang on about to it everyone else to sound clever.
The only important ones to have are angular and radial. Transversal is nice if you have the screen real estate to fit it on although all the relevant information comes from angular which is basically a product of the transversal and distance from the target. Radial is very useful for telling you how fast a target is approaching or retreating. |
Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:You want to know the transversal since, as Mara Rinn pointed out, it tells you how well you can match their manoeuvres.
Hmm never thought about using transversal like that. I guess that is for throwing of people orbits etc then. |
Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:42:00 -
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Weiz'mir wrote:Tiber Ibis wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I'm just trying to raise awareness that transversal velocity is not what people treat it as. I'd say I succeeded there. Must admit, this used to annoy me when people kept banging on about transversal velocity in TS all the time and telling everyone how they should use it. And when I tried to explain to them to use angular they didn't seem to understand or were blinkered into believing transversal is the only way. Very strange, and made me wonder if they actually read the transversal reading they have on their overview or just like to bang on about to it everyone else to sound clever. The only important ones to have are angular and radial. Transversal is nice if you have the screen real estate to fit it on although all the relevant information comes from angular which is basically a product of the transversal and distance from the target. Radial is very useful for telling you how fast a target is approaching or retreating. +1 My only concern is why tracking speed of turrets - which is a fundamental information - isn't shown along with the distances and damages information when you put your mouse over your modules. Hope CCP will add this information soon. I have always thougt that transversal velocity is useless if you know the velocity of the ennemy ship and its radial velocity. However, reading Mara, I wonder if at the end of the day I shouldn't replace the velocity by the transversal velocity in my overview (not enough room for both). After all, who cares of the "absolute" speed of a ship ? What matters is its relative speed, which is known thanks to the transversal velocity. Am I right ?
The absolute speed of the ship should be left on for sure. This can give you a lot of useful information as to whether the opponent is MWD or AB fitted, or using boosts or other speed enhancing modules. Transversal wouldn't directly give you that information. I'm in the same position too, not enough screen real estate to fit on everything so transversal had to be sacrificed. |
Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
88
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Posted - 2013.07.19 11:27:00 -
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This is kind of a ridiculous argument. Does anyone actually have evidence to suggest whether turrets would operate with a freely rotational pivot independent of the ship, or whether they would be attached to the ship and operate dependent on the ships movement. I would say the later is more likely, although as there are no real examples of turrets mounted on real space ships then I would assume that both variations are possible. |
Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
88
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Posted - 2013.07.19 11:53:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Tiber Ibis wrote:Does anyone actually have evidence to suggest whether turrets would operate with a freely rotational pivot independent of the ship GǪehmGǪ that's exactly how turrets in EVE work (for the simple reason that ships don't really have any kind of rotation to inherit, what with being points and all).
I know that is how turrets work in eve. But seeing as the suggestion was that turrets would not work like this in real life, I was simply stating we don't actually know how turrets would work in real life, and they could in fact work both ways. |
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